Opinions on the current EN community?

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Cryaotic

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Not only that, players or past staff that have been fired for leaking info have taken advantage of the fact that a NEW manager who is much more clueless on the reputation of players has been promoted to a position of authority where they can hire anyone that they please.
There was a whole riot over staff leaking info, and there were staff members that I have fired in the past for leaking staff info that have been hired AGAIN. And that’s not even the worst part, some of them were in fact the staff members that were leaking info, and some of them are STILL in the team. I got ahold of a lot of info that I didn’t even ask for, and it was stuff that should not have been in my hands. Info such as tension between the 2 new managers, screenshots to staff channels on discord, news on who the new arbs were and how things were run. The list goes on. Not only that, there are players on the team or who were on the team that worked for rival private servers that tried to get info from my staff when I was a manager. One of them was hired as a funcorp and I believe they quite later on or “retired” after a short period of time. And for what? Maybe so they can go back to their private server and ridicule Miceforce and the EN community?

Some of the staff that leaked info and still could be are listed as the current managers best friends on her about page. This is mad fucked up, and I would have never let this happen to my team when I was around. They are absolute parasites.

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Some of these miscreants are either still close friends to members of the staff team, or they ARE part of the staff team.
 

Grandpiano

Pingless
There’s a lot of people that don’t quite understand how corrupt the game is in general. EN is plummeting with the number of active players. Rooms 1, 2, and sometimes 3 were chaotic with their chatting, survivor rooms filled with energy while many players filled up many rooms, cafe was booming with topics and responses, and even boot camp had a good amount of players. Now no one is active. 2018-now has been awful when it comes to the staff which is where we see the decrease in active players. They’re bored and they’re catching on that this community is toxic. I’m not saying everyone before 2018 was perfect, because they definitely weren’t, but this is a new level of flaw. Sure, the game has been corrupt for a long time, but nothing has been done to fix it.

Another thing: it seems that cms make you do everything they want. Just because someone is staff doesn’t mean they can’t speak up, use their voice, and help make the community better. The community manager shouldn’t be making rules that are prohibited by the owner of the game. Favoritism needs to end. Care needs to start. This game is going downhill fast and it won’t change until everyone makes an effort to change it.

In no way is this supposed to be an attacking thread. The people on staff should take this as a good learning experience as to what could be fixed with the community. You’re twisting our words and our obligation. This is simply a matter to fix what has gone down in EN and make it better.
 

Cryaotic

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It freaks me out how 6 staff members were fired for being “untrustworthy” without proof, and then multiple ex-staff were hired thereafter, ones that shared info and tried to steal info for their other games.
 

Cryaotic

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the community is dying. the 'staff drama' isn't going to revive it if that's what you think.
If it’s not going to revive what was once one of the most active communities in the game, then at least we know we tried in the end and it would be worth it anyhow. The respective people would know who caused it to fall apart.

It’s a shame though. EN players only speak english, it’s not like they would flee to another community. The game would just die with the community.
 

Kalani

Cheesoholic
I’ve read the majority of the posts on this thread and might I say the constructive criticism aspect is lacking a bit. Of course I’ll take all of this into consideration, and I am in no way trying to bash the people speaking their opinions that are different than mine. I respect all of your opinions and I will apply all of it to my future work. I can’t even deny that EN is dying, it doesn’t take a lot for the average miceforce player to realize that the EN player count isn’t as high as it used to be. I can tell you for a fact that I interact with the players as much as possible and I enjoy doing so. I’ll talk about the supposed ‘favoritism’. I could be blind, but I don’t see the favoritism you’re speaking on. You can call me biased, forced to say this, etc. but I’ve seen 0 favoritism since Lost officially became CCM by herself. Regarding Glow’s thread, she does have a clear point, but of course I don’t agree 100%. I think that as a suggestion, it shouldn’t have been closed that easily, but I do feel as if she should’ve posted it with the mindset that it probably wouldn’t go well with the staff and it had a high chance of being closed, but then again, it’s not always about what staff thinks. I do see how dating in the staff could lead to favoritism, and I also see how that could be a problem in the near future. To me, this thread isn’t that bothersome and I really don’t think it’s a bad idea. I like hearing players’ opinions and what they think we should do to improve the community, but, I also see how this thread could take a turn and end up being closed. Of course my opinion on the EN team is a little biased because I am a part of it, but I will not be sharing that opinion since that has no importance to this post. Have a good day.
 

Jared

Cheesoholic
I’ve read the majority of the posts on this thread and might I say the constructive criticism aspect is lacking a bit. Of course I’ll take all of this into consideration, and I am in no way trying to bash the people speaking their opinions that are different than mine. I respect all of your opinions and I will apply all of it to my future work. I can’t even deny that EN is dying, it doesn’t take a lot for the average miceforce player to realize that the EN player count isn’t as high as it used to be. I can tell you for a fact that I interact with the players as much as possible and I enjoy doing so. I’ll talk about the supposed ‘favoritism’. I could be blind, but I don’t see the favoritism you’re speaking on. You can call me biased, forced to say this, etc. but I’ve seen 0 favoritism since Lost officially became CCM by herself. Regarding Glow’s thread, she does have a clear point, but of course I don’t agree 100%. I think that as a suggestion, it shouldn’t have been closed that easily, but I do feel as if she should’ve posted it with the mindset that it probably wouldn’t go well with the staff and it had a high chance of being closed, but then again, it’s not always about what staff thinks. I do see how dating in the staff could lead to favoritism, and I also see how that could be a problem in the near future. To me, this thread isn’t that bothersome and I really don’t think it’s a bad idea. I like hearing players’ opinions and what they think we should do to improve the community, but, I also see how this thread could take a turn and end up being closed. Of course my opinion on the EN team is a little biased because I am a part of it, but I will not be sharing that opinion since that has no importance to this post. Have a good day.
I would like to add onto what Kalani has said, I will not ignore the fact that EN is dying. Trust me, I know due to the number of players coming online and offline. I do not mind any opinions, on the EN team, this thread should be helpful on what we should improve. As Kalani has stated, ever since Lost became CCM, I haven't seen anymore favoritism as well as others have mentioned. The thread that Glow has made "Staff Relationships," I will admit the fact, it could lead into favoritism, but any other than that, ever since Lost became CCM, there has barely been any of it. This thread should help us improve, rather than firing back, and turning into complaints.
 

Glow

Pingless
I would like to add onto what Kalani has said, I will not ignore the fact that EN is dying. Trust me, I know due to the number of players coming online and offline. I do not mind any opinions, on the EN team, this thread should be helpful on what we should improve. As Kalani has stated, ever since Lost became CCM, I haven't seen anymore favoritism as well as others have mentioned. The thread that Glow has made "Staff Relationships," I will admit the fact, it could lead into favoritism, but any other than that, ever since Lost became CCM, there has barely been any of it. This thread should help us improve, rather than firing back, and turning into complaints.
Suggestions aren't working because we've tried making them various times both as a group and individually but we've been ignored. Complains are what induce change here.
 

Cryaotic

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I would like to add onto what Kalani has said, I will not ignore the fact that EN is dying. Trust me, I know due to the number of players coming online and offline. I do not mind any opinions, on the EN team, this thread should be helpful on what we should improve. As Kalani has stated, ever since Lost became CCM, I haven't seen anymore favoritism as well as others have mentioned. The thread that Glow has made "Staff Relationships," I will admit the fact, it could lead into favoritism, but any other than that, ever since Lost became CCM, there has barely been any of it. This thread should help us improve, rather than firing back, and turning into complaints.
Whether you like it or not, any opinion going against a subject will ALWAYS be considered a complaint. That’s the simple nature of going against something.
You’re very easily influenced as well, just yesterday in-game you were denying the fact that the community is dying and the team isn’t doing enough to prevent it further. You even avoided conversation about it and kept saying things giving off the vibe you don’t care, which was unprofessional and quite immature. If you didn’t like where the conversation was going, you could have fled the scene or said that you simply were uncomfortable with the topic.

This is what I mean when the staff members lack training and lack self-discipline.
 

Chickeb

Cheesus
I’ve read the majority of the posts on this thread and might I say the constructive criticism aspect is lacking a bit. Of course I’ll take all of this into consideration, and I am in no way trying to bash the people speaking their opinions that are different than mine. I respect all of your opinions and I will apply all of it to my future work. I can’t even deny that EN is dying, it doesn’t take a lot for the average miceforce player to realize that the EN player count isn’t as high as it used to be. I can tell you for a fact that I interact with the players as much as possible and I enjoy doing so. I’ll talk about the supposed ‘favoritism’. I could be blind, but I don’t see the favoritism you’re speaking on. You can call me biased, forced to say this, etc. but I’ve seen 0 favoritism since Lost officially became CCM by herself. Regarding Glow’s thread, she does have a clear point, but of course I don’t agree 100%. I think that as a suggestion, it shouldn’t have been closed that easily, but I do feel as if she should’ve posted it with the mindset that it probably wouldn’t go well with the staff and it had a high chance of being closed, but then again, it’s not always about what staff thinks. I do see how dating in the staff could lead to favoritism, and I also see how that could be a problem in the near future. To me, this thread isn’t that bothersome and I really don’t think it’s a bad idea. I like hearing players’ opinions and what they think we should do to improve the community, but, I also see how this thread could take a turn and end up being closed. Of course my opinion on the EN team is a little biased because I am a part of it, but I will not be sharing that opinion since that has no importance to this post. Have a good day.
Thank you for considering and seeing some of our opinions and viewpoints lilla. Although I do not agree with everything you said, I appreciate it
 

Cyand

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Thank you for considering and seeing some of our opinions and viewpoints lilla. Although I do not agree with everything you said, I appreciate it
 

Cryaotic

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I’ve read the majority of the posts on this thread and might I say the constructive criticism aspect is lacking a bit. Of course I’ll take all of this into consideration, and I am in no way trying to bash the people speaking their opinions that are different than mine. I respect all of your opinions and I will apply all of it to my future work. I can’t even deny that EN is dying, it doesn’t take a lot for the average miceforce player to realize that the EN player count isn’t as high as it used to be. I can tell you for a fact that I interact with the players as much as possible and I enjoy doing so. I’ll talk about the supposed ‘favoritism’. I could be blind, but I don’t see the favoritism you’re speaking on. You can call me biased, forced to say this, etc. but I’ve seen 0 favoritism since Lost officially became CCM by herself. Regarding Glow’s thread, she does have a clear point, but of course I don’t agree 100%. I think that as a suggestion, it shouldn’t have been closed that easily, but I do feel as if she should’ve posted it with the mindset that it probably wouldn’t go well with the staff and it had a high chance of being closed, but then again, it’s not always about what staff thinks. I do see how dating in the staff could lead to favoritism, and I also see how that could be a problem in the near future. To me, this thread isn’t that bothersome and I really don’t think it’s a bad idea. I like hearing players’ opinions and what they think we should do to improve the community, but, I also see how this thread could take a turn and end up being closed. Of course my opinion on the EN team is a little biased because I am a part of it, but I will not be sharing that opinion since that has no importance to this post. Have a good day.
You haven’t seen favoritism since Lost became manager? Are you insisting that there was favouritism going on when I was the manager? If there ever was, it was my own staff recommending other people. NEVER did I ever hire anyone unqualified for a designated position just because I liked them or just because I was their friend. Of all people would know I didn’t keep friends when I was around, I only had my co-workers. The one friend I had was Chlomaki but she was never favoured, she was promoted because she worked hard for her positions and she saw her purpose in the team as an opportunity to help me and benefit the community and get the job done.
If there is back stabbing within the staff team right now where current staff members are developing rumours or lies about ex-staff or current players, that needs to stop. And that is exactly what people mean when they say that the current EN staff is toxic to the community and its players.
 

+xqr

EN Co-Admin, Mod Director & Tester
Co-Admin
Tester
OK lets address some claims shall we?

1) EN has much less players currently than it used to have.
EN undoubtedly has much fewer members than it used to have when Fao / Chlo were CCMs. One of the major reasons the player count dropped was due to the implementation of GL. What is GL? GL refers to global rooms. To those who arent aware, in December 2018, EN decided to no longer be the international room. Rooms with a * at the beginning were GL rooms. A very high percentage of past EN players did NOT speak english and thus, ditched EN for the international rooms. As a result, the amount of EN players took a huge hit. GL rooms do have a good amount of players most of the time. There may be other factors but if players truly do enjoy Miceforce, a change of management style will NOT cause them to leave. Its only those who care about power and politics who actually give a shit.

2) Favouritism

For starters, I have seen 0 staff members be promoted just because they have a good relationship with their higher ups. Let me share about my experience and how I climbed the ladders. I joined the staff team in December 2018 with 0 friends in the staff team. I worked hard and devoted myself into my role and that was what everyone else was doing. I became friends with the whole staff team because they were so welcoming but did they favor me due to that? No. My first promotion was FC but that was with a good reason. My timezone is different from every other EN staff member and my desire was to entertain those who couldnt be entertained by all the EST FC's. I was promoted to FC Director due to 2 reasons. I was the most experienced FC member in the team and the former director was let go. At this point of time, I saw no other staff member receive special treatment. Everyone was getting what they deserved be it good or bad. I became a MapCrew member a while later since I saw a huge flaw in the current P10 map roation. Recently, I was promoted to Mod Director and CO admin due to lost recognising just how much I devoted myself into my work. Why do I say all this? If me, a dude who was rejected by past managers, with 0 connections in the staff team, rose to the highest rank while everyone else was throwing in just as much hard work as I was, what favouritism is going on here? There are people closer to Lost in the team and many others who are closer to their directors so why arent they higher up the chain than I am?

3) Staff riots. Here we go again

Be real for a sec here ok. If you had a rat in your team, giving away crucial information, would you not prioritise the safety of your info over your employees? Fao, in the old training ground / force social, Id see you kick and ban those just for being a nuisance and you're knowing for being ruthless and kicking those who'd pose as a nuisance or a threat so Im sure you'd do the same if you were dealing with rats. The 3 who were rehired were rehired since they were proven innocent. In a case of a potential rat, guilty till proven innocent works better for the whole team and game than innocent till proven guilty.

4) Staff relationship thread.

I don't know much on that whole issue but what I do know is that it was archived since it became more of a trashtalking thread like an actual suggestion. If you were on the team and saw a thread on a suggestion forum when its more of "talking about how bad the current manager is cause she has a bf ohh she must have been favoed", would you not feel provoked / taken it down if you could?

5) Toxic community

Take away the handful of cafers + ex staff who are pissed at lost and you'd still have most of the community with so much toxicity gone.

EDIT* EN is not the only community suffering with low player rate. Many other communities have also been receiving less players and if you insist that thats due to Losts management and not because of the many other factors that have a super high chance of causing this then Idk man, you do you
 

Quicksand

ES Sentinel
Sentinel
Although I'm supposed to belong to the ES community, I was a player in this community and all I want to say is that I really enjoyed the time I spent there until I left the game. I met many nice people and I hope the staff can solve the problems that EN has. I like too how people are sharing opinions in here. Love you all and I hope everyone is having a nice day <3
 
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Kalani

Cheesoholic
You haven’t seen favoritism since Lost became manager? Are you insisting that there was favouritism going on when I was the manager? If there ever was, it was my own staff recommending other people. NEVER did I ever hire anyone unqualified for a designated position just because I liked them or just because I was their friend. Of all people would know I didn’t keep friends when I was around, I only had my co-workers. The one friend I had was Chlomaki but she was never favoured, she was promoted because she worked hard for her positions and she saw her purpose in the team as an opportunity to help me and benefit the community and get the job done.
If there is back stabbing within the staff team right now where current staff members are developing rumours or lies about ex-staff or current players, that needs to stop. And that is exactly what people mean when they say that the current EN staff is toxic to the community and its players.
I never once said that you favored your staff. I never once brought up you as a CCM since I never involved myself towards the staff while you were in charge of EN. Since I know absolutely nothing on how you ran your staff since I was hired when Chlomaki was CCM, I have no right to comment on your time as CCM. I never had a problem with you or your managing, what I stated was I haven't seen Lost favor anyone in particular. When I said by herself I was mostly referring towards the fires and how I was one of them. In the moment I felt like it was favoritism, but then again, both the parties always had different opinions that were mostly the same. It wasn't only Lost's decision, it was Inval's, Berk's, Syth's, and Lost's. I was also referring to the firing of Chlo, which I feel was unnecessary since Chlo was doing her best for EN. I apologize if I rubbed off the wrong way.
 
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Over time, I've lost complete interest in the game. It doesn't feel like a community, the game activity is low, no one really talks in rooms anymore, and there is barely any events or contests. It just feels dry. Obviously, the staff can't just poof the player base back, but come on, can't you do something that's new and engaging? Because frankly, it's just boring just sitting here, playing the same maps, going to funcorps which are the same thing every time, and chatting with the 3 people that still play the game.

As far as staff goes, my opinion is very biased. The people in power shouldn't be there. From personal experience, Lost has no fucking idea on how to manage this community. She's also favorited and treated like the newborn child of the royal family. As I've said before, she has little to NO contact with the community and just sits back and lets her headass staff team do the work for her. Maybe she has changed, but I wouldn't know because there is nothing keeping me playing the game. I also have problems with other staff members but I will choose to keep them to myself. I don't want to sound hateful but it's just frustrating on how things are dealt with here.
 

Glow

Pingless
4) Staff relationship thread.

I don't know much on that whole issue but what I do know is that it was archived since it became more of a trashtalking thread like an actual suggestion. If you were on the team and saw a thread on a suggestion forum when its more of "talking about how bad the current manager is cause she has a bf ohh she must have been favoed", would you not feel provoked / taken it down if you could?
It wasn't a trashtalking thread. Nobody mentioned anyone directly except for one person, nor did anyone talk about "how bad the current manager is". It was a thread to discuss a rule that I proposed, which people for the most part agreed with.
And no, I wouldn't take it down. I can handle criticism.
 

+xqr

EN Co-Admin, Mod Director & Tester
Co-Admin
Tester
Ok, since many of you guys say that this game is dry and needs more to it, suggest some ideas that us staff members can pull off.
 
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